be...almeno lo hanno capito mandandone solo uno.
i nostri esperti nel passato e chissa ancora oggi, hanno messo in produzione aeri e mezzi per accorgersi solo dopo batoste storiche o tecniche, che qualcosa avevano sbagliato nello decire in merito.
ma chissa,
ammettere sbagl o scelte non giuste potrebbe essere una virtu degli uni e difetto degli altri.
saluti marco
in merito alla domanda iniziale :
da
http://indochine54.free.fr/cefeo/afvs.html
M4 Sherman Medium Tank
The famous Sherman was used in limited numbers both in the M4A1 version, and the M-32 ARV (with 81mm mortar, but no gun, 1x hull 0.3in MG, 1x 0.5in AA MG, winch and A-frame jib).
Weight: 30 tons
Crew: 5
Length: 19ft 4in (excluding gun) (5.89m)
Width: 8ft 7in (2.62m)
Height: 9ft (2.74m)
Armour: 12-75mm
Armament: 75mm gun, 0.5in MG (AA), 2x 0.3in MG (hull and coaxial)
Engine: various, typically 500hp petrol or 375hp diesel
Top Speed: 24-29mph (cross-country 15-20mph approx)
Range: 100-150 miles (depending on engine)
Danny O'Hara This page is an attempt to detail the various types of AFV in service during the French Indochina War of 1945-54. I do not intend to spend much time here on tactics or organisations, but to give an overview of the variety of equipment in service with the CEFEO. The history of the various armoured units in Indochina deserves a page to itself !
As with most areas of equipment for the CEFEO, the AFVs were an heterogenous mix - in the early days Japanese tanks were used by the returning French Army, and later a mixture of US, British and French vehicles were brought in. Many were modified locally, and as in most thing the French proved to be nothing if not adaptable.
Tanks and Tankettes
Japanese Tanks
The CEFEO made use of several ex-Japanese tanks early in the War.
The main user of these was an ad-hoc formation (apparently the reforming Détachment Motorisée du Cambodge?) in Cambodia, which used Renault UE tractors with machine-guns mounted, plus a mixture of Japanese Type 89B mediums, Type 95 lights and Type 94 tankettes. There were at least 9 Japanese tanks in service on 15th February 1946.
Type 89-B Medium Tank (Otsu)
Weight: 13 tons
Crew: 4
Length: 19ft 3ins (5.87m)
Width: 7ft 1in (2.16m)
Height: 8ft 6ins (2.59m)
Armour: 10-17mm
Armament: 57mm gun, 2x 7.7mm MGs (one in turret rear, one in hull)
Engine: 115hp diesel
Top Speed: 15mph
Type 95 Light Tank (Ha-Go)
Weight: 7.5 tons
Crew: 3
Length: 14ft 4ins (4.37m)
Width: 6ft 9ins (2.06m)
Height: 7ft (2.13m)
Armour: 6-12mm
Armament: 37mm gun, 2x 7.7mm MGs (one in turret rear, one in cupola)
Engine: 110hp diesel
Top Speed: 25mph
Range: 100 miles
Type 94 TK Tankette
Weight: 3.5 tons
Crew: 2
Length: 10ft (3.05m)
Width: 5ft 3ins (1.60m)
Height: 5ft 4ins (1.63m)
Armour: 4-12mm
Armament: 7.7mm MG in small turret (offset to right)
Engine: 32hp petrol
Top Speed: 26mph
Range: 100 miles
French Tanks
There were a few Renault MG-armed chenillettes in Cambodia at the beginning of the conflict, and numbers of H-39 light tanks were sent out from France in 1947 and 1948.
Chenillette Renault UE "Colonie"
Weight: 2 tons
Crew: 2
Length: 9ft 2ins (2.80m)
Width: 5ft 8.5ins (1.74m)
Height: 4ft 1in (1.25m)
Armour: 7mm maximum
Armament: 1 7.5mm MG (FM 24/29)
Engine: 35hp petrol
Top Speed: 18mph
Range: 60 miles
The casemate was an AMX development, built initially for export orders to China pre-WW2. There were apparently 6 in service in Cambodia, 15th February 1946.
Hotchkiss H-39 Light Tank
These tanks of the Blitzkrieg Era of WW2 had probably seen service with the French Army in 1940, then the Wehrmacht, and were then returned to French use again. The first arrived in May 1947 to equip the REC (Foreign Legion Cavalry Regiment), with 20 more in April 1948.
Weight: 12 tons
Crew: 2
Length: 13ft 10ins (4.22m)
Width: 6ft 5ins (1.95m)
Height: 7ft 1ins (2.15m)
Armour: 34mm maximum
Armament: 37mm gun and 7.5mm MG
Engine: 120hp petrol
Top Speed: 22mph (36kph)
Range: 75 miles (120km)
US Tanks
M5 Stuart Light Tank
This tank provided the main part of the CEFEO's tank force until replacement by the more modern
M24 Chaffee started in 1950, but it was in service from 1946 until the final withdrawal.
Weight: 15 tons
Crew: 4
Length: 15ft 10.5ins (4.84m)
Width: 7ft 4.25ins ((2.24m)
Height: 7ft 6.5ins (2.30m)
Armour: 12-67mm
Armament: 37mm gun, 3 MGs (co-axial, hull and AA)
Engine: 110hp petrol
Top Speed: 36mph (cross-country 24mph approx)
Range: 100 miles
HMC M8
Based on the M-5 hull, this vehicle provided much needed fire-support to armoured units in Indochina.
Weight: 15 tons
Crew: 4
Length: 16ft 3ins (4.95m)
Width: 7ft 7ins (2.31m)
Height: 7ft 6.5ins (2.30m)
Armour: 10-54mm
Armament: 75mm howitzer (in open turret), 0.5in MG (AA)
Engine: 220hp petrol
Top Speed: 36mph (cross-country 24mph approx)
Range: 100 miles
M4 Sherman Medium Tank
The famous Sherman was used in limited numbers both in the M4A1 version, and the M-32 ARV (with 81mm mortar, but no gun, 1x hull 0.3in MG, 1x 0.5in AA MG, winch and A-frame jib).
Weight: 30 tons
Crew: 5
Length: 19ft 4in (excluding gun) (5.89m)
Width: 8ft 7in (2.62m)
Height: 9ft (2.74m)
Armour: 12-75mm
Armament: 75mm gun, 0.5in MG (AA), 2x 0.3in MG (hull and coaxial)
Engine: various, typically 500hp petrol or 375hp diesel
Top Speed: 24-29mph (cross-country 15-20mph approx)
Range: 100-150 miles (depending on engine)
M24 Chaffee Light Tank
This excellent light tank came into service in Indochina from 1950, and was most famously used at Dien Bien Phu where the Chaffees were nicknamed "bisons".
Weight: 18 tons
Crew: 5
Length: 16ft 6ins (excluding gun) (5.03m)
Width: 9ft 8ins (2.95m)
Height: 8ft 1.5ins (2.48m)
Armour: 10-38mm
Armament: 75mm gun, 0.5in MG(AA), 2x 0.3in MG (hull and coaxial)
Engine: 220hp petrol
Top Speed: 35mph (cross-country 25mph approx)
Range: 110 miles
M36B2 Jackson Tank-destroyer
This tank destroyer was initially deployed to Indochina to guard the Chinese border, but was generally used for fire-support. It was based on the M-10 Tank Destroyer, itself a development from the M4A2 Sherman.
Weight: 28 tons
Crew: 5
Length: 19ft 7ins (5.97m)
Width: 10ft (3.05m)
Height: 10ft 5.5ins (3.19m)
Armour: 12-50mm
Armament: 90mm gun, 0.5in MG (AA)
Engine: 450hp petrol
Top Speed: 30mph (cross-country 18mph approx)
Range: 112 miles
http://www.smallscaleafv.com/inspiration/patrick-lapalu/french-sherman-m4-a1-in-indochina-january-1952/
molto interessante:
https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/pentagon/pent9.htm
vedi sotto:
2. MAP for Indochina
molto interessante :
http://webdoc.sub.gwdg.de/ebook/p/2005/CMH_2/www.army.mil/cmh-pg/books/vietnam/mounted/chapter1.htm
oppure
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figurini :
https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/french-indochina-figure-kits.117246/
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/azimut-adv35714-team-75mm-gun-m20-indochine-algerie--1102099
etc etc.
saluti marco